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#1 User is offline   YPD 

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Posted 19 January 2012 - 01:36 AM

I m sure you all have as well a lot of internal meettings,entertainment event, training or Hr activities happening in your place and that your department need to support and handle, and where all F&B needs are charge at cost ( inter departemental transfer ) I would be interested to know if any one are charging the man power as well as they are working but do not generate any revenue... all the time I present that request I realize that I m seriously disturbing ....
Any input would be great

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Posted 20 January 2012 - 04:27 AM

Unless you need to hire extra staff for a specific internal event or eventually pay over-time to some regular employees I don't see a reason why you should charge/deduct a manpower cost.

These events usually do not occur very often, if not for small events such as staff monthly birthday party where your team will be asked to prepare a small setup, a cake a maybe some snacks.

It is just part of your department duties. If organized well it will take place when your staff is not busy with something else as you usually want as many staff as possible to attend (from all departments).

The priority remains the business and nobody will ever go against you if your staff is needed to run the business.
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Posted 26 January 2012 - 10:29 AM

Th's Diego

I agree with you..... but my issue is that I have a very stretched team accumulating OT and outstanding days off,PH ect .... and it peace me off to have to cancel day off or undertime to my guys for non monney generating events ...
It acually happen quite often and my problem is that i have higth pressure to put down my payroll %


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Posted 28 January 2012 - 03:53 AM

Again, shouldn't really be an issue as this takes place in any hotel/company, unless it does affect your operations. If it does, then you can always bring out the issue with you hr and gm.

Paying o-t for an event that generates revenue is completely fine, paying o-t for staff events should be avoided. Try to involve other departments, they surely have some spare staff to help when your team is busy with the guests.
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Posted 28 January 2012 - 03:53 PM

@YPD: Charge it off to HR or Training!!


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Posted 24 February 2012 - 07:24 AM

YPD, you should never sign for OT or cancel staff days off for internal events. I face the same issue here, but HR Department are very supportive, whenever it is a staff-related event, HR is in charge and must coordinate, F&B will assist as needed. As for internal meetings, etc. I am sure that they do not require for a staff to standby at all times, therefore sparing 5-10 minutes to set up a small coffee break should be fine.
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Posted 02 March 2012 - 07:13 AM

Seems that your co' has a lot of useless meetings in which the management just socializes. They all can go to the bar and grab a coffee and drink it in the breakout area! Managers are there to serve not to be served!
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Posted 03 March 2012 - 01:10 AM

@MD: Since when are Departmental meetings useless??
Planning meetings?
Catering and Conventions?
Sales and Marketing?
Rooms Division and Forecasts??
Engineering and Building Maintainence and Grounds?
EXCOM?
Food and Beverage?
Training?

You must be a dictator or Owner!
That's a stupid remark!

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